tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424911514604648591.post2379932459094821997..comments2023-05-20T07:22:39.287-07:00Comments on 11 ILC at Columbia: Final DebateMadeline Kronenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00809038721402994691noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424911514604648591.post-73048063997922651592011-07-15T21:38:03.615-07:002011-07-15T21:38:03.615-07:00Yes, equal rights should mean equal rights. Howeve...Yes, equal rights should mean equal rights. However, in this scenario,race wasn't the only deciding factor. While the two were mirror images of each other in terms of academics and testing, Baker did leadership while Lopez did leadership AND played sports. Yes, Lopez received points for his race, but Baker also received points for legacy. Given that in Baker's parent's generation that it was mostly white individuals that attended college, is it not discrimination to reward points for legacy when it will apply, for the vast majority, to white applicants?<br /><br />Furthermore, in the grand scheme of things 3 points out of 150 isn't a significant amount. It counts for a mere 2%. And according to Regents of the University of California v. Bakke Justice Powell stated in the majority opinion that affirmative action only violates the Constitution if the university uses a strict quota system to admit students. He also states that affirmative action is protected by the Constitution if race is one of several factors that an institution reviews when looking through an application. The UNY looked holistically at the applications considering in additions to test scores and academics and "others" which include leadership, legacy, talents, socio-economic background, and race. Thus the university is just in applying affirmative action.<br /><br />In response to your reference to the KKK and why no one stands up for them isn't just because they are racist. The reason why no one backs them is because they call for violence against African Americans. <br /><br />As for women, I believe that they, as well as minorities, have made very significant strides into areas previously dominated by white males. The reason why an pro-women group would be backed is that unlike men, women were viewed to be inferior and should not attend college. The idea of the a group like the EMILY's List is to get women on an equal playing field.<br /><br />While minorities and women gain become more prevalent in areas such as jobs and college, it is inevitable that the majority will lose some percentage in terms of the amount of people working at attending college. But given that you are an equal rights activist, then is it fair to keep the white community as the majority while other races or genders are left in the dust? I think not.Eric Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14879637828261924209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5424911514604648591.post-8860967721070593842011-07-15T11:50:05.592-07:002011-07-15T11:50:05.592-07:00Eric,
While your argument may be legally correct,...Eric,<br /><br />While your argument may be legally correct, I'm afraid that if I were the judge or the jury my own personal thoughts on the matter would cancel out your argument.<br /><br />I'm one of those politically incorrect people who believes that EQUAL rights actually means that we treat all people equally.<br /><br />I use as a litmus test for admissions biases, organizations and political organizations: replace your ethnicity or gender preference with "white" and "male" and ask if it would still be socially acceptable.<br /><br />Instead of the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People), try the NAAWP (National Association for the Advancement of WHITE People). Instead of the BLACK Student Union, how about the WHITE Student Union? <br /><br />Would anyone stand for an organization promoting the advancement of white people (think KKK)?<br /><br />Where EMILY's List is designed to promote women in politics, what would people think if there was a similar organization solely promoting men?<br /><br />So how can any school say they are adhering to any "equal" rights laws if they give preferential treatment to any race, the ethnicity or gender? <br /><br />This is what prompted the Bakke Decision back in '76.<br /><br />Even when I was getting ready to go to college the US was evolving from their discriminatory ways of doing things and people wanted to make up for the 400 years of oppression of minorities. To compensate they went overboard t the point that I was advised multiple times to not even bother to apply to some schools or for some scholarships since they simply weren't going to take care of a white male.<br /><br />Shouldn't EQUAL rights means EQUAL rights?Don Gosneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17110247579694408858noreply@blogger.com